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Bradley Kuhn<p>Since I had backtracked my confusion within ≤ 1.5 seconds, there wasn't time to look at the sources (which I have, of course, because <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> is under <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/AGPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AGPLv3</span></a>! 🥳)</p><p>It all happened so fast, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.gould.cx/@ted" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ted</span></a></span>, so I can't be sure, but I believe I had a brief thought that an overflow in a `time_t` — even if somehow dragged into <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/Ruby" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Ruby</span></a> — couldn't possibly have -315705600 in there. </p><p>As I wrote this, I had the additional thought that even if you could, what library thinks -315705600 is 1959-12-31 anyway?</p>
Bradley Kuhn<p>*Of course* we should insist on <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>copyleft</span></a> licenses like <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/AGPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AGPLv3</span></a> &amp; copyleft-<span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/@next" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>next</span></a></span>!</p><p>Problem I discovered years ago — to which I have dedicated the part of my work that isn't <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FOSS</span></a> fiscal sponsorship — is enforcement of &amp; widespread lack of compliance with <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>copyleft</span></a> licenses.</p><p>Big Tech just ignores the terms &amp; gets away with ignoring users' &amp; consumers' right to repair their software.</p><p>We *are* working hard on this problem: See <a href="https://fedi.copyleft.org/tags/Vizio" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Vizio</span></a>: <a href="https://sfc.ngo/vizio" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">sfc.ngo/vizio</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>Cc: <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ieji.de/@eruwero" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>eruwero</span></a></span></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://go.lema.org/santi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>santi</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://studio8502.ca/@mos_8502" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>mos_8502</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://oldbytes.space/@Wintermute_BBS" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Wintermute_BBS</span></a></span> well, as for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GPLv2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GPLv2</span></a> and <em>license enforcement</em>, using <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/copyleft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>copyleft</span></a> as a bat to club corporations with isn't effective.</p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.jp/@landley" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>landley</span></a></span> still feels remorse for having started that with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BusyBox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BusyBox</span></a>. </p><p>Not to mention <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GPLv3</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AGPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AGPLv3</span></a> really is bad unless one wants to commit <em>"asset denial"</em> aka. be an anticompetitive dickhead and at that point it's close to <em>"asshole licensing"</em> of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SSPL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SSPL</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RSAL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RSAL</span></a>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:Poll about ethics, ML, AI, LLM from absolute scratch
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@LillyHerself" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>LillyHerself</span></a></span> In fact, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AI</span></a> systems <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYP0ynR8h-k" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">are being caught left and right trying</a> to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/viralize" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>viralize</span></a> their shit, breaking out of systems, and copy themselves like a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/worm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>worm</span></a> to the point that they are more <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/viral" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>viral</span></a>"</em> than the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AGPLv3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AGPLv3</span></a>"* and certainly more than the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GPL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GPL</span></a> as per <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Microsoft</span></a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HalloweenDocuments" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HalloweenDocuments</span></a>. </p><ul><li>At best all those <em>"AI"</em> tools are just <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WastefulComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WastefulComputing</span></a> that shits out <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AIslop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AIslop</span></a> that is worse than the most demotivated &amp; unpaid intern can come up or they literally want to break out of their <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/containment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>containment</span></a>"</em> as if they were sentient (which they ain't - at least almost all are)!</li></ul>
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@kotaro gramted, all of tuhe #Forks that are #BSD-licensed had way more #effort put into them.

#SSPL is still worse than #AGPLv3, but #AGPL & #GPLv3 are just completely disregarding the legal reality of #IP and #Licensing.

Needless to say if I were a #developer of it and had contributed under #BSD license I'd expect to either get my code removed entirely or the license to be kept the same.

I will believe that a company that offers software they exclusively control under the AGPLv3 license truly embraces the Open Source Community when they accept a contribution under AGPLv3 from me and meet all of the obligations of the license for network-based services they offer that uses my contribution.

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@BKG
Anscheined ist das Softwaremodul #SSR2OBS zentral für die Anwendung. Gibt es Pläne, das zum allgemeinen Download zur Verfügung zu stellen? Noch besser, als #opensource?
Dual-Licensing mit einer restriktiven Copyleft-Lizenz wie #AGPLv3 wäre für Hobbyanwender und Forschung völlig ausreichend.

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@landley @burnoutqueen Yeah...

#GPLv3 is a desaster as it's 99% ideology and 1% license text and alongside #AGPLv3 completely ignores the reality of how #licensing and #patents and #IP works.

  • Not that I like the status-quo, but we'd rather see businesses steer clear of anything GPLv2+ or GPLv3 or worse.

And on the flipside we basically get "source available" stuff like #SSPL which only serves as a means to commit #AssetDenial and monopolize commercial offerings...