Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://floss.social/@jbqueru" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>jbqueru</span></a></span> Also I hope for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RISCv" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RISCv</span></a> to be the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ISA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ISA</span></a> of the future for long-term <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSourceHardware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSourceHardware</span></a> and support.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ARM64" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ARM64</span></a> - just like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/amd64" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>amd64</span></a> - is <em>yet another proprietary ISA</em> and almost all devices with it in terms of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Laptops" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Laptops</span></a> have <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AntiRepairDesign" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AntiRepairDesign</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apple" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Apple</span></a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MacBook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MacBook</span></a>|s that self-destroy their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SSD</span></a>|s which also contains it's <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EFI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EFI</span></a> / <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BridgeOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BridgeOS</span></a>"</em>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYG4VMqatEY" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">making machines with fried SSDs <em>'braindead'</em>…</a></p><p>And yes, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RAM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RAM</span></a> to also fails and making it not fully replaceable and upgradeable is inherently bad and I'm still mad at <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> for their botched <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FrameworkDesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkDesktop</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PC</span></a>!</p><ul><li>Cuz it's neither necessary nor beneficial for a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Desktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Desktop</span></a> PC, unlike with the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Framework12</span></a> where the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SoC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SoC</span></a> used only supports single channel and a single SODIMM so it makes sense for them to take that into account.</li></ul>
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Liam :partyparrot:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> <br>Pre-ordered the <a href="https://mastodon.au/tags/framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>framework12</span></a> in Lavender.</p><p>Can't wait for July!!! 🎉🎉🎉</p>
oemmes<p><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>framework12</span></a> <br><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>framework</span></a> <br><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/FrameworkLaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkLaptop</span></a> </p><p>Sollte ich mir einen Framework Laptop 12 kaufen weil er nachhaltig, reparierbar, und toll ist?</p><p>Oder sollte ich mir keinen Framework Laptop 12 kaufen weil der Hersteller in den USA sitzt und ich die USA aktuell mit keinem Cent unterstützen will und je nach Windrichtung ggf. sogar die angezahlten 100€ nicht zurückkommen wenn der fiesen Orange ein Furz quer hängt?</p><p><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/fedihelp_de" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fedihelp_de</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>I mean, I'd not have any issues with a <em>"shitty"</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Netbook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Netbook</span></a> if it's prized acceptable.</p><ul><li>And not €220+ for a Laptop with an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Atom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Atom</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Z8350" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Z8350</span></a> & 2GB RAM and a 32GB eMMC that was €199 at lauch 10 years ago and €149 5 years ago.</li></ul><p>Cuz then I might be better off buying a used <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinkPad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ThinkPad</span></a> with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USBc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USBc</span></a>, remove the dead battery and stap a Powerbank to it.</p><ul><li>Speaking of dead <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LaptopBatteries" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LaptopBatteries</span></a>: I propably have to mod my <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/X230tablet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>X230tablet</span></a> so I can <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DIY" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DIY</span></a> some replacement battery.</li></ul><p>Tho I'd rather start the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NUCbook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NUCbook</span></a> project instead or buy a <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Framework12</span></a> instead...</p>
Kunstbanause<p>How are your experiences with <a href="https://nrw.social/tags/framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>framework</span></a> computers so far?</p><p>I currently use small Surface Go ("Tablet") running Linux, and more often than not I am annoyed by the kickstand. So seriously considering the new <a href="https://nrw.social/tags/framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>framework12</span></a>. 🫣</p><p><a href="https://nrw.social/tags/askfedi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>askfedi</span></a></p>
the magnificent rhys<p>Sage green <a href="https://mastodon.rhys.wtf/tags/Framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Framework12</span></a> preordered, in batch 1 shipping in July :)</p><p>Bit spennier than I hoped for at £864 with my chosen config, but it's still a cool machine and I'm happy to go for it.</p>
the magnificent rhys<p>New video of the <a href="https://mastodon.rhys.wtf/tags/Framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Framework12</span></a>.</p><p>I'm super hyped for this thing. If the price is right — and every indication is that it will be — I'm going to be recommending this thing to everyone who asks me for a laptop recommendation for the next several years.</p><p>Also, it looks like a future screen upgrade might be possible 👀</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.rhys.wtf/tags/framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>framework</span></a></p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/Ejl-7X74tgc" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">youtu.be/Ejl-7X74tgc</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
the magnificent rhys<p>Heck yes!</p><p>I'm planning on downgrading from my Yoga to it — to support @Framework and encourage their development of the 2-in-1 form factor.</p><p>My hope is that they do a mid-/high-end 2-in-1 with an AMD APU at some point in the future.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.rhys.wtf/tags/framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>framework</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.rhys.wtf/tags/framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>framework12</span></a></p><p><a href="https://frame.work/nl/en/blog/framework-laptop-12-pre-orders-open-next-week" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">frame.work/nl/en/blog/framewor</span><span class="invisible">k-laptop-12-pre-orders-open-next-week</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@bastetfurry" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>bastetfurry</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@janet_catcus" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>janet_catcus</span></a></span> the only thing cooler would be if they did a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/transparent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>transparent</span></a> version, but I also know why they didn't and instead chose said muted colour pallet: As those are easily sourceable, child-safe (if not medical- or food-grade), and available as recycling plastics. Also said colours don't directly show ABS's yellowing under sunlight that distinctively.</p><p>Keeping costs down, compared to the high prices of optically clear, non-discoloured plastic ehich also tends to be more brittle, and also may not be an option due to the way they pulled a <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinkPadnium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ThinkPadnium</span></a>"</em> style metal reinforcement of the chassis, as they clearly worked out a mix of elastic deformation (TPU), lightweight flexing and stiffening is the way to make a machine that is more forgiving in terms of abuse without designing it to be an unwieldy, heavy industrial appliance.</p><p>So yeah, I do want to see <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> release the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Framework12</span></a> and maybe some compact <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Desktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Desktop</span></a> case that is essentially allowing to shove a Framework 12 or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Framework13" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Framework13</span></a> mainboard and keyboard in and have a low-footprint unit like the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RaspberryPi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RaspberryPi</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Pi400" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Pi400</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Pi500" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Pi500</span></a> units. Or just some case one can bolt onto <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VESA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VESA</span></a> mounts at a screen (similar to a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinkStation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ThinkStation</span></a> Tiny / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinkCentre" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ThinkCentre</span></a> Tiny) and use those for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Classrooms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Classrooms</span></a>.</p><p>I hope they have some nice <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Stylus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Stylus</span></a> slot & lanyard option similar to the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/X230Tablet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>X230Tablet</span></a> I still daily-drive today.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@bastetfurry" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>bastetfurry</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@janet_catcus" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>janet_catcus</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> not to mention whilst tooling up for reinforced plastic is more expensive than CNC'ing aluminium or get that sheetmetal-pressed, the cost per unit goes down way easier as said plastic parts are less abrasive to tools and one set of shells can be used to injection-mould several thousand cases at a higher speed, reducing tge time and space needed per unit.</p><ul><li>Also mind you the replacement parts prices will OFC be higher than the cost of manufacturing, cuz every <em>"FRU"</em> or <em>"CRU"</em> on it's own generates a new SKU to inventory and manage, whereas just combining multiples to make a <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Framework12</span></a>"</em> unit is not adding much.</li></ul><p>OFC I do expect this thing, which is basically a modern spin on the <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IntelClassmate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IntelClassmate</span></a>" <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Laptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Laptop</span></a></em> to not have extreme high-end and be designed with a specific price point in mind.</p><ul><li>Propably do a rubbery keyboard and better ingress protection to make it more viable for handibg out to schoolchildren.</li></ul><p>Add to it that Framework isn't <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Quanta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Quanta</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Clevo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Clevo</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Foxconn" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Foxconn</span></a> and we ain't talking <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MacBook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MacBook</span></a> margins, but given they didn't release specs nor MSRP but are eager to get <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/bulk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bulk</span></a> orders from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/education" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>education</span></a> customers, that seems the trajectory they're going.</p><ul><li>Shurely they could easy do a <em>"€299"</em> offering with an N100, 128GB NVMe & 8GB RAM if one were to order like 10.000 and pay upfront, but I do expect them to rather go with like a N300 instead so these devices ain't dead slow and can survive 6 years of 8x5 use in an elementary/middle school setting.</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>I really want to see <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> release the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Framework12</span></a> for a killer price...</p><p>Ideally starting something like €499 w/ tax & stylus in a 1000-pack or €699 single...</p><p>Can't wait for actual specs & pricing details.</p>
ekorn<p>Das <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>framework12</span></a> sieht wirklich ganz nett aus und wenn es jemand hin bekommt unter Linux einen gut benutzbaren Stylus anzubieten dann wohl <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>framework</span></a> oder bekommen sie da zu viel Vorschuss Lorbeeren von mir ?</p><p>Der <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/frameworkDesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>frameworkDesktop</span></a> mit fest verlötetem RAM wirkt hingegeben wie Satire auf mich. </p><p><a href="https://liliputing.com/framework-laptop-12-is-a-repairable-convertible-notebook-with-stylus-support/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">liliputing.com/framework-lapto</span><span class="invisible">p-12-is-a-repairable-convertible-notebook-with-stylus-support/</span></a></p>
selfhosting.couchsurfing<p>Framework Laptop 12 is a cheaper, more colorful take on a repairable laptop PC</p><p>At a product event today, the company showed off what it called "an early preview" of its third laptop design, the convertible, budget-focused Framework Laptop 12.</p><p>This addition to Framework's lineup centers on a 12.2-inch, 1920×1200 convertible touchscreen that flips around to the back with a flexible hinge, a la Lenovo's long-running Yoga design.</p><p>The first <a href="https://mastodon.pirateparty.be/tags/Framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Framework</span></a> Laptop 12 motherboard is going to use Intel's 13th-generation Core i3 and i5 processors, originally launched back in late 2022. It supports up to 48GB of DDR5-5200 (implying just a single DDR5 RAM slot).</p><p>The company hopes to begin preorders in April and to begin shipping the laptop in mid-2025.</p><p>Ars Technica / <a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/02/frameworks-laptop-12-is-its-first-stab-at-a-budget-convertible-touchscreen-pc/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/0</span><span class="invisible">2/frameworks-laptop-12-is-its-first-stab-at-a-budget-convertible-touchscreen-pc/</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.pirateparty.be/tags/Framework12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Framework12</span></a> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span></p>
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