@linuxer @stormii @karl_ist_super ja, sowas wie @monocles / #monoclesChat, @gajim / #gajim & @delta / #deltaChat...

• Nur weil etwas alle/die meisten machen wird's nicht weniger falsch!

Natürlich kannste #Signal nutzen, nur dann musste halt auch drauf klarkommen dass so zentralisierter shice durch eine christofaschistische Regierung (#USA) irgendwann eingestampft wird.

• Davon dass es eine bescheuerte Idee ist aus gründen von #Datenschutz, einen Anbieter zu nutzen der ne #Telefonnummer verlangt mal abgesehen.

#Monocles verlangt hingegen garkeine Daten und erlaubt anonymes Bezahlen per #Monero & #CashByMail !

@aei I only have one: @monocles / #monoclesChat (okay, two: @gajim / #Gajim on #Desktop) for #XMPP+#OMEMO!

@kkarhan @delta @monocles @gajim I have to say I'm enjoying using #Deltachat as my email client, just because it feels similar to the apps I already *also* use (like #Signal, WhatsApp, #Gajim, #Conversations). There's less mental "friction" owing to that familiarity of user interface. It sucks that virtually no one else I (regrettably) still email (they still just love, love, love those free-enough-seeming, "encryption-challenged" gmail addresses) can find an email provider supporting autocrypt... but that lowering of mental friction from Deltachat _alone_ is feeling "worth it".

While I highly appreciate #Thunderbird for its calendar and addressbook (precious CalDAV/CardDAV support), the UI is so "busy" in comparison.

@delta Yeah, I think #deltaChat is pretty cool and like #XMPP+#OMEMO ( @monocles / #monoclesChat & @gajim / #gajim ) a very good option.

• Espechally since both do real #E2EE and not #AdvertisingLies!

@FerdiMagellan @jwildeboer @soatok I use #XMPP+#OMEMO, more specifically, @monocles / #monclesChat & @gajim / #gajim!

https://docs.monocles.eu/apps/chat.app/

• Another option that may be interesting if you are a business/org & need archival support (and have existing #eMail infrastructure) is @delta / #deltaChat, which is easy to bring into #compliance with #GoBD / #HGD and similar #Archival mandates for professional/business comms.

@axbom I too have been doing some similar evaluating of alternatives. I would recommend adding:

- #Zulip (Slack, #Mattermost competitor) More info: https://c.im/@sbb/114034480079879818
- #Conversations/ #Gajim/ #Prosody (is similarly E2E encrypted, but additionally federated, unlike Signal), this is my #XMPP "stack" at present (more info: https://c.im/@sbb/114032786446300932 )
- #DeltaChat (is federated, unlike #Signal) More info: https://c.im/@sbb/114043962394278098
- #flarum , a forum similar to Discourse, but will run on a #RaspberryPi, unlike Discourse
- #calibre-web for your ebook collection
- #shiori, for private cloud bookmarks

@kinetix @delta @anthropy I am aware of #DeltaChat.

• As for #XMPP+#OMEMO clients, I can recommend @gajim / #gajim & @monocles / #monoclesChat hands-down, as both are super-easy to setup and get even abdolute #TechIlliterates rollin'...

@pixelschubsi @erebion @inaruck so oder so sind alle aktuellen #XMPP-Clients, besonders @monocles / #monoclesChat & @gajim / #gajim warnen ganz eindeutig gegen unverschlüsselte kommunikation!

• Außerdem kann ich schneller #TechIlliterates auf #XMPP+#OMEMO onboarden als irgendwer eine anonyme #SIM oder #eSIM mit #Rufnummer besorgen kann.

Zumal auch das nen Kostenfaktor ist, wohingegen es drölfzig Optionen gibt was XMPP angeht!

@pixelschubsi @dalias @puppygirlhornypost2 that doesn't change the inherent issues of @signalapp being #centralized, #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider compared to #XMPP+#OMEMO as in @monocles / #monoclesChat & @gajim / #gajim.

Or des anyone expect #Signal and it's staff to actually resist?

• Cuz I don't!https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/113999563684987571