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@movim @dominik

Note, that #OMEMO has been taken directly from Signal, only adapted for #XMPP.

Most modern #Jabber clients default to OMEMO for one-to-one conversations nowadays. For private groups, I believe, users still have to enable it explicitely.

I'm not aware of any public Jabber server that would still accept non-TLS connections, so you have both transport #encryption and #e2ee.

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@AskSteve @sturmsucht @urbanprivacy @xmpp

Nichts gegen neue Chat-Apps. Aber ich bin seit ca. 2014 bei #Jabber (bevor es Signal oder Matrix gab bzw. mir bekannt gewesen wären) und es funktioniert gut. Mit gateways habe ich auch Zugang zu IRC und Matrix. Für einen Wechsel fehlt der Leidensdruck 🙂

Delta ist OK, aber es gibt noch keine native Linux-App, was mir sehr wichtig ist. Und (noch) keine Gateways zu IRC, Matrix, #XMPP, daher derzeit für mich nicht interessant.

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@urbanprivacy

#UnplugTrump, daher Signal in der Amazon Cloud von Jeff B., einem DJT-#Broligarchen? Vom Regen in die Traufe!

Threema ist dbzgl. besser, zumal es Users nicht zwingt, ihre Telefonnummer rauszurücken.

Aber #digitaleSouveränität bietet der Silo nicht, da man sich den Server nicht aussuchen kann, z.B. in der #EU oder #selfHosting.

Zum Glück gibt es seit 1999 einen Internet-Chat-#Standard, der freie Föderation erlaubt wie Email oder das #Fediverse.

@xmpp

In other news, my tiny self-hosted #XMPP #Jabber server using #Snikket is now 100% compliant with the #Conversations compliance test!
Out of the box Snikket basically gives you 95% compliance, with it "just" missing out on XMPP over TLS. Their documentation on this is rather lacking, so it took some fiddling to get it working.
Overall Snikket is quite nice. But I don't like how it seemingly goes out of its way to not call itself XMPP/Jabber. Isn't that just confusing?
compliance.conversations.im/se

Getting started with XMPP/Jabber and PGP for federated, encrypted messaging

This is a short thread where I explain how I started using the XMPP protocol and PGP encryption for secure messaging. I am not a security expert, but I am a mathematician and I am confortable with the Linux command line. This guide is for people who want to use PGP for secure messaging easily. You will need to be okay with typing commands into the Linux command line in order to do this, but I will tell you exactly what to enter.

Part 1: XMPP

Mastodon is like email, but for social media. You sign up for an account with a server, and then you can talk with any other accounts that are signed up on other servers, as long as your servers are getting along. (No one wants emails from the sketchy spam server, and we want to be able to choose between Yahoo, Gmail, etc.) XMPP (a.k.a. Jabber) is the same thing for text messaging.

Just like signing up for an email/Mastodon account, you need to sign up for an account. You can find a list of servers at list.jabber.at/ and will probably at least need to provide an email addess when making an account.

Once you have made an account, you need a client. On Linux, I've been having a good time using Dino (dino.im/). You can then enter your account name and password to log into your XMPP account and start chatting! There are both public rooms and you can also message directly with your friends.

#security #PGP #XMPP #FOSS #Jabber #Dino #MonoclesChat

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@debacle

#XMPP #Messenger #SocialMedia ownership

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Thank you for the clarification. I did state (at least in the convo mentioned) that #XMPP is (but) a protocol.
The FOSS messenger(s) based on it, however, to my knowledge, are but niche apps for the technologically savvy.--No-one of my RL contacts has ever mentioned it (no a represantive sample, OFC.)

#Jabber, w/o having any further knowledge other than the superficial one...

@thevril @pluralistic