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Heb je #buitenhof gemist, alsnog kijken! Eerst Rita Baroud uit Gaza. Ze vertelde haar verhaal heel ingetogen, maar het raakte me enorm. Ik dacht aan de vreugde van de Gazanen toen ze terug konden naar Gaza. Ze houden echt van hun land😞
Toen Michiel Servaes: Achteraf zul je zien dat er wordt gezegd: met de kennis van nu hadden we meer moeten doen -- maar we hébben de kennis nu.
Inderdaad gekmakend hoe massief de weerstand is. In volgende item noemde Sinan Çankaya het institutionele kramp, >>

Is it naive to have faith in the UN?

In the Netherlands there's a weekly talk show called "Buitenhof". It's broadcast live on Sundays between 12:10 and 13:10 local time. The target audience are intellectuals.

One of the items on Sunday May 4 was a debate between Liesbeth Zegveld (her first name is pronounced as "Leesbet", more about her in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liesbeth) and Arnon Grünberg, a well known writer with Jewish roots (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnon_Gr).

An excerpt of the heavy and somewhat emotional debate can be seen (and heard) in youtube.com/shorts/-pCyIUXFh4I - but it's in Dutch (the full item can be seen in youtube.com/watch?v=-wO0SxviMxo).

In infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat I promised @orladediez to write a translation.

I did my best to translate, without biases, said excerpt to English (please correct me if I made any mistakes). LZ stands for Liesbeth Zegveld, AG for Arnon Grünberg.


LZ: In that case, was the foundation of the UN, in response to WWII, naive?

Is the General Assembly naive?

Where 190 states discuss matters together to formulate with an answer?

AG: we can also determine that the idea of the UN is great, but there's theory and practice.

Being that the UN was uncapable of preventing what happened in Yugoslavia, what happened in Cambodia, what happened in Ruanda.

Actually the UN, with all its resolutions, is powerless w.r.t. the war between Russia and Ukraine, the UN was powerless w.r.t. the mass-slaughter in Syria and also in Iraq.

These are just a few examples.

LZ: Still we live in relative peace in the Netherlands.

AG: Agreed, but that's not just thanks to the UN...

LZ: that is in part thanks to the UN. It is, in part, thanks to the forum we have in New York to talk to each other. If we stop talking, and we talk to Israel...

AG: I'm not saying that the UN should be dismantled.

The moderator interrupts and asks LZ to continue.

LZ: talking to each other, finding words, and have meetings for it, the General Assembly.

A kind of democracy where we all come together, and do not bow for the powertalk of three countries, but together with the 190 other countries say "we do not accept this".

What have we been doing last week at the ICJ, with all those countries. 45 countries took the opportunity to speak out. Not the least. Poland among others. They say, we stand here, thanks to the foundation of the UN, and we can have our voice heard here at the ICJ.

If you stop believing in that, then the coherence, the connection between all of us, is gone. And we are a small country, we also rely on it.

I'm not saying that we can stop Israel. I say, make use of the system we've established and decorated after WWII. In which we've invested *a lot*, and has helped us a lot.

Support it.


The hash tags below are mine (Erik). P.S. my grandfather was Jew who survived WWII, his family was murdered by Nazis.

“500 million Europeans are begging 300 million Americans for protection from 140 million Russians who have been unable to overcome 50 million Ukrainians for three years."
Deze uitspraak van de Poolse president Tusk kwam weer bij me boven tijdens kijken naar #buitenhof

De ogen van Maaike Schoon spraken m.i. boekdelen over haar persoonlijke mening, maar tot een CLM * kwam het niet (youtube.com/watch?v=NPBijxkdxRk).

Maaike wordt m.i. steeds professioneler, en dat neem ik haar beslist niet kwalijk.

Dit n.a.v. rightsforum.org/buitenhof-liet (bron: @TheRightsForum in mastodon.social/@TheRightsForu)

* Career Limiting Move

Is er kans dat een incident als Signalgate vaker gaat gebeuren? Sterker nog, dat ís waarschijnlijk al vaker gebeurd, zegt Ben Hodges (oud bevelhebber Amerikaans leger), gezien hoe nonchalant ze met die informatie omgaan. En aangezien ze hun fouten ontkennen, zal het ook vaker gaan gebeuren. Gevaarlijke combinatie van incompetentie en arrogantie. #Buitenhof.

Mar 9, 2025
How is America doing after seven weeks of Donald Trump?

youtube.com/watch?v=XPH_xfOMBrM

Anthony Scaramucci on the first seven weeks of Donald Trump's presidency in Dutch Buitenhof

Since the public humiliation of Zelensky by his counterpart Trump, geopolitical relations are on edge. Meanwhile, Trump has suspended arms deliveries to Ukraine and the US security services no longer share information.

'De verdeeldheid is heel slecht' | Frans Timmermans | #Buitenhof
youtube.com/watch?v=MGarnzM3uw

Vandaag was Frans Timmermans op bezoek bij Buitenhof.

-Aanrader-

Jammer dat er tegen het einde eigenlijk te weinig tijd bleek te zijn.

Meer over de uitzending van 23 Feb:
vpro.nl/buitenhof/lees/in-de-u

Alles wat Geert Mak zegt in #Buitenhof. Heel goed ook dat hij Ruben Brekelmans aanspreekt en erop wijst dat de VVD met vuur speelt. Door te collaboreren met PVV help je normaliseren dat onze democratie wordt ondermijnd, wat nu gaande is as we speak. Word wakker #VVD.

I was quite shocked by this fragment of #Buitenhof, where #TimothySnyder is interviewed by #TwanHuys. I will probably be sharing this video for the upcoming four years.

If you think that loyal paramilitaries are dangerous in a rule of law state, please share this video far and wide. The interview is in English: youtube.com/watch?v=qJ_HzpPYJA

The part I'm talking about is only about two minutes, from 2:40 until 5:04.

Arno Visser van Bouwend Nederland in #buitenhof: ondernemend Nederland ergert zich aan kabinet mbt stikstof. Niet wéér een commissie, niet 12 vergaderende ministers: 1 minister is genoeg om oplossingen DIE AL KLAAR LIGGEN uit te voeren.
De reactie van Plas, “de wet veranderen”, is volstrekt inadequaat vindt hij. Ga iets dóen: stikstof reduceren, bouwen, Nederland van het slot. Er zijn oplossingen, haal het beleid van je voorganger weer uit de prullenbak. “Hoeveel rechtszaken zijn er nog nodig?”