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Richard MacManus<p>"I want my MTV...as long as it's the Java version in IE4." </p><p>MTV's website in 1997 was a hodgepodge of technologies: Java, JavaScript, frames and more. The quality of your user experience depended on which browser you used: Netscape or IE. <a href="https://cybercultural.com/p/browser-war-1990s/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">cybercultural.com/p/browser-wa</span><span class="invisible">r-1990s/</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/InternetHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InternetHistory</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/BrowserWar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BrowserWar</span></a></p>
Steve Faulkner<p>Make <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/browserLove" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>browserLove</span></a> not <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/browserWar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>browserWar</span></a> <br>t-shirt design by <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@patrick_h_lauke" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>patrick_h_lauke</span></a></span> </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/browser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>browser</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/love" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>love</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/war" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>war</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/WebStandards" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebStandards</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1414307891/browser-love-by-lauke-short-sleeve" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">etsy.com/uk/listing/1414307891</span><span class="invisible">/browser-love-by-lauke-short-sleeve</span></a></p>
Notesnook<p>Okay, look. Chromium's monopoly is definitely a concern. But Firefox is also not the answer here.</p><p>In a way, you are giving Firefox leeway to do as they want since they are the only thing stopping Chromium's monopoly. That's equally wrong.</p><p>Use the better, more secure technology, until we have something better. Don't use Firefox because it's not Chromium - that's definitely not healthy.</p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/browserwar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>browserwar</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/chromium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>chromium</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>firefox</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/monopoly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>monopoly</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/security" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>security</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/technology" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>technology</span></a></p>
Ryuno-KiAngular, light rant
Jan<p>You think Chrome is fast?</p><p>Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer 🚀</p><p>Firefox cares about your Privacy 🛟</p><p>Give it a try!</p><p><a href="https://toot.io/tags/browserwar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>browserwar</span></a></p><p><a href="https://treeherder.mozilla.org/perfherder/graphs?timerange=31536000&amp;series=mozilla-central,3735773,1,13&amp;series=mozilla-central,3412459,1,13" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">treeherder.mozilla.org/perfher</span><span class="invisible">der/graphs?timerange=31536000&amp;series=mozilla-central,3735773,1,13&amp;series=mozilla-central,3412459,1,13</span></a></p>
Oblomov<p>But the worst here isn't that <a href="https://sociale.network/tags/Google" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Google</span></a> is actively against the <a href="https://sociale.network/tags/openWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>openWeb</span></a>: it's that in contrast to the first <a href="https://sociale.network/tags/browserWar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>browserWar</span></a>, there is really nobody left to stand up to them. <br>Consider for example <span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@davew" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>davew</span></a></span>'s write-up on Google's effort to deprecate <a href="https://sociale.network/tags/HTTP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HTTP</span></a><br><a href="http://this.how/googleAndHttp/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">http://</span><span class="">this.how/googleAndHttp/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a><br>and consider that <a href="https://sociale.network/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Firefox</span></a>, the only actual alternative, is also on Google's page:<br><a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2015/04/30/deprecating-non-secure-http/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">blog.mozilla.org/security/2015</span><span class="invisible">/04/30/deprecating-non-secure-http/</span></a><br>albeit less aggressively so.</p>
Oblomov<p>I'm sure people have different ideas about what does it mean to support the <a href="https://sociale.network/tags/openWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>openWeb</span></a>. I think first and foremost it means allowing users (on both sides of the connection) to use the protocols and file formats of their choice. Every time a browser fails to implement (or worse decides to remove) support for a standard protocol or file format, it's failing the open web. Half-assing implementation of web standards was basically <a href="https://sociale.network/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Microsoft</span></a>'s staple behavior during the first <a href="https://sociale.network/tags/browserWar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>browserWar</span></a>.</p>
Oblomov<p>I don't think people appreciate the role that <a href="https://sociale.network/tags/OperaSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OperaSoftware</span></a> played in fostering the <a href="https://sociale.network/tags/OpenWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenWeb</span></a> and <a href="https://sociale.network/tags/IndieWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IndieWeb</span></a> during the first <a href="https://sociale.network/tags/browserWar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>browserWar</span></a> (when the <a href="https://sociale.network/tags/OperaBrowser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OperaBrowser</span></a> was still built on their proprietary <a href="https://sociale.network/tags/Presto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Presto</span></a> engine), and a fortiori the role it had in their demise (when they switched to being “just another <a href="https://sociale.network/tags/WebKit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebKit</span></a>/#Blink skin”), despite their browser never even reaching a 3% market share.</p>
Steve Faulkner<p>🆕 👕 <br>Make <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/browserlove" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>browserlove</span></a> <br>not <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/browserwar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>browserwar</span></a> <br>New t-shirt design by <span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@patrick_h_lauke" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>patrick_h_lauke</span></a></span> </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/browser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>browser</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/love" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>love</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/war" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>war</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/WebStandards" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebStandards</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1414307891/browser-love-by-lauke-short-sleeve" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">etsy.com/uk/listing/1414307891</span><span class="invisible">/browser-love-by-lauke-short-sleeve</span></a></p>