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Puisque @pixelfed ne sait pas lire les fichiers #heic, voici quelques photos de mon week-end le long des bords de Seine, itinéraire à vélo électrique depuis #Rouen jusqu'à #Honfleur, en passant par Saint-Wandrille, son abbaye et ses moines brasseurs de bière, et Vieux-Port avec ses luxueuses maisons en chaume.

Je continue à lire les aventures de Fausta face aux Saurionnides sur fond d'intrigues au sein de l'église Théogalactique grâce à Françoise d'Eaubonne.

I’ve been using the Process Zero feature in Halide for a while now, but I’ve just realised that I misunderstood how it actually works. I had thought that when I selected Process Zero and exported the DNG (RAW) file, I was still getting the benefits of the Process Zero feature. But it turns out that’s not the case at all.

Process Zero applies only to JPEG/HEIC files. When I export the DNG (RAW) file and edit it in Lightroom or Darkroom, it’s not a Process Zero shot. The DNG (RAW) file is just that—a (mostly) unprocessed RAW image. I never made the connection that Process Zero is entirely automatic and doesn’t involve any post-processing and the JPEG/HEIF was the finalised Process Zero image.

It makes sense now why some people are confused, just like I was. You select Process Zero in the app, take a photo, and then export either the DNG (RAW) or the JPEG. I just assumed the label applied to both, but it only works for JPEGs or HEICs.

What I didn’t understand is that Process Zero is supposed to give you a final image with no extra editing needed. I’ve seen posts labelled “Process Zero” that I thought looked incredible, but now I realise many of those shots were likely edited DNG (RAW) images, not true Process Zero outputs. It’s kind of a humbling realisation, knowing that I’ve been misinterpreting this feature the whole time.

Halide II Settings · 13 October 2024 ·

To compare the two, I decided to head over to the Billie Johnson Mountain Lakes Nature Preserve to capture images in the DNG and HEIC formats. The air was crisp and cool, and the sky was overcast, casting a soft light over the autumn foliage. The temperature was just right for a peaceful walk—around 12°C—and the air smelled fresh like it had rained overnight. It was 9:38 AM when I arrived, and the trees were full of colour: vibrant reds, golds, and deep oranges, making for a perfect backdrop to capture the differences between the two formats.

Halide II Settings · 13 October 2024

I made sure to shoot three sets of images, saving both the DNG (RAW) and HEIC versions. I kept the ISO low to avoid unnecessary noise and allowed Halide to automatically handle the white balance and focus. While the HEIC would benefit from Process Zero’s automatic adjustments, the DNG (RAW) was left unprocessed, awaiting post-production in Lightroom Classic.

Halide II Settings · 13 October 2024 ·

With the shots taken, I packed up, feeling eager to dive into the files later at home and truly see the differences between the detailed DNG (RAW) files and the more compressed HEIC versions. I took a closer look at the metadata of two photos I captured: one in DNG (RAW) format and the other in HEIC.

The DNG file, which is a DNG (RAW) format, is designed for detailed, uncompressed images. This means I have much more flexibility when it comes to post-processing. However, this advantage comes with a trade-off: the file is a hefty 14 MB, making it significantly larger than the 2 MB HEIC file. The HEIC format, on the other hand, is compressed, which allows for smaller file sizes, making it easier to store and share but I lose some detail and editing flexibility.

While examining the metadata, I noticed that the DNG file contains intricate details about colour matrices. This information is invaluable for DNG (RAW) editing software like Adobe Lightroom, allowing for precise adjustments. In contrast, the HEIC file doesn’t include such details since it's meant to be more of a finished product

Moreover, the DNG (RAW) file includes additional metadata about its format, such as the DNG version and details for backward compatibility, along with a more extensive Exif data block. The HEIC file, being optimized for efficient storage, has fewer technical details, focusing more on user convenience.

Here’s a comparison of the key differences between the two files:

AttributeDNG File (RAW)HEIC File (JPEG/HEIC)File Size12.5 MB4.5 MBFile TypeDNG (RAW)HEIC (JPEG/HEIC)CompressionLosslessCompressed

For comparison, I exported the untouched DNG file to a JPEG and exported the untouched Process Zero HEIC to a JPEG. By untouched I mean that I did not make any changes to these DNG or HEIC images before conversion to JPEG.

Untouched DNG exported to JPEG · 13 October 2024 · Apple iPhone 11 Pro · iPhone 11 Pro back camera 4.25mm f/1.8 Untouched Process Zero HEIC exported to JPEG · 13 October 2024 · Apple iPhone 11 Pro · iPhone 11 Pro back camera 4.25mm f/1.8

For the processed DNG (RAW) image I then applied my edits in Lightroom: adjusting exposure, contrast, highlights, shadows, blacks, texture, and vibrance. I then used the AI-powered Enhance Details feature of Adobe Lightroom Classic before exporting the image to a JPEG. Here is the result:

Processed DNG exported to JPEG · 13 October 2024 · Apple iPhone 11 Pro · iPhone 11 Pro back camera 4.25mm f/1.8

As for the Process Zero HEIC, I intentionally left it unedited because that’s the point of Process Zero—you're supposed to get a final image straight out of the camera (SOOC). The reality? It’s unpredictable. The image preview on your iPhone will never resemble the final HEIC that Process Zero produces. Shots are either blown out or underexposed with no reliable way to ensure a great result.

I’d advise not using Process Zero if the photo is important to you. For instance, I wouldn’t rely on it for vacation shots. Stick to the DNG (RAW) format for the most control and detail. While Process Zero is convenient, it pales in comparison to Apple’s ProRAW format, which provides significantly more flexibility for those looking to capture and edit with the finest detail.

This experience has solidified for me that DNG (RAW) is the way to go for detail and post-processing flexibility. Process Zero may sound like a hassle-free option, but its inconsistency makes it unreliable. For crucial shots, nothing beats editing your DNG (RAW) files yourself.

But I may be titling at windmills here. Maybe I can heed the words of fstoppers writer Alex Coleman.

When it comes to interchangeable lens cameras, raw is a clear benefit over JPEG. In phones, however, the files have little additional latitude when saved as a raw file. Sure, you have less discretion over HDR and white balance by sticking with the default camera app, but are you really micromanaging those settings when shooting with a phone? Why You Shouldn’t Waste Money on Camera Apps
by Alex Coleman, March 23, 202

https://islandinthenet.com/process-zero-is-not-raw/

L’AVIF prend enfin ses aises sur Internet : c’est quoi ce format d’image ?
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Il y aura bientôt dix ans, la question du remplaçant du vénérable JPEG se posait déjà. En 2015, plusieurs grandes entreprises du numérique se sont rassemblées pour travailler sur la question. Alphabet, Amazon, AMD, Apple, Cisco, Intel, Meta, Mozilla, Microsoft et Netflix ont alors formé l’Alliance for Open Media.

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Netflix utilise l' #AVIF.
Apple et Samsung utilisent l' #HEIC.
Google le #WebP.

Next · L’AVIF prend enfin ses aises sur Internet : c’est quoi ce format d’image ? - NextAvec la sortie d’Edge 121, le dernier grand navigateur se dote de la compatibilité avec la AVIF. Comment fonctionne ce format d'image ?

Ich hab vorhin ja mal umher gefragt, ob es eine Anwendung für #Windows gibt, welche mir Bilder in das #HEIC Format umwandeln kann. Tools die das genaue Gegenteil können gibt es ja zu genüge. Leider sieht das unter Windows schlecht aus. Unter #Linux erhält man sofort immer wieder eine Befehlszeile für ImageMagick...

Das funktioniert, ist aber nicht komfortabel um "mal schnell" umzuwandeln, da möchte schon eine GUI her und am besten noch einfach zu bedienen. Genau dort setzt Converseen an. Es wandelt jedes erdenkliche Format um und kann auch einfache Sachen wie Skalierung gleich mit erledigen. Ganz einfach über eine grafische Oberfläche und ohne Syntax.
Es nutzt unter der Haube ImageMagick

github.com/Faster3ck/Conversee

Erhältlich für alle Betriebssysteme, so ist leider doch die HEIC (Schreib-)Unterstützung nicht gegeben unter Windows, daran wird laut Issue auf #Github gearbeitet, bisher allerdings nicht integriert.

Ich selbst nutze es um KI-generierte Bilder von PNG (55 - 60MB) in HEIC umzuwandeln (1,5 - 3 MB). #ImageMagick untersützt unter Linux mehr Formate, als unter Windows. Dennoch kann es durch Vielseitigkeit glänzen und natürlich ist Batchverarbeitung kein Problem. Wer also einen kostenlosen Converter sucht, der so ziemlich vieles kann, der wird hier fündig.

Ist im Übrigen in vielen Distributionen schon enthalten, wie Fedora, Ubuntu und Co.

GitHubGitHub - Faster3ck/Converseen: Converseen is a batch image converter and resizerConverseen is a batch image converter and resizer. Contribute to Faster3ck/Converseen development by creating an account on GitHub.

Need to vent how frustrated I am that #Pixelfed does not work with #HEIC format on its website. I would rather make a post on my laptop than on my phone, especially for older pictures I've backed up in #OneDrive.

I know it is not the most important thing in the world, that I can convert the files to JPEG to upload, and that I could just make it so my iPhone uploads jpegs instead.

I don't understand the #technology behind it or why it is difficult - I just know I'm annoyed 😠

So, having moved away from Apple a while ago now, I've decided to close down my account and my first step is to download all my photos. I've downloaded a few just to test the process and noticed most of them have the .HEIC extension. GIMP seems to be able to open these but not my default image viewer. Will I have to convert all of these in order for any image viewer to be able to open them?? If so, what an absolute pain and even more of a reason to move away. Advice anyone? #icloud #apple #heic

C'est quoi ce merdier chez #Apple avec les images #HEIC ?
Cette semaine, la moitié de nos clients nous ont appelé parce que leurs correspondants leur envoyaient des pièces jointes sous ce format.
C'est une mise à jour iOS qui change le format d'échange des photos ?

Sous Debian/Ubuntu/Mint, il y a un utilitaire qui convertit facilement ces fichiers en jpg ?

Which should we use in 2023: HEIC Photo Format vs JPEG and PNG and WEBP formats

We all have long known the JPEG file format because it is quite old already, and just works everywhere. Back in the day it offered a reasonable compression, being a lossy compression, but it is probably no longer the best format to use. Whilst PNG is a lossle ...continues

See gadgeteer.co.za/which-should-w

GadgeteerZAWhich Should We Use In 2023: HEIC Photo Format Vs JPEG And PNG And WEBP Formats - GadgeteerZAWe all have long known the JPEG file format because it is quite old already, and just works everywhere. Back in the day it offered a reasonable compression,
#HEIC#images#JPG