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@LaF0rge @stman @kDelta @Sempf obviously that's why it was discontinued for a time in #Germany, as it was considered as obsolete as #HSCSD is in light of faster standards that - even without guaranteed bandwith - will yield higher throughput.

  • Obviously #CellBroadcast will necessitate a constant bandwith allocation for functionality as it's design is based upon repeating a message until it's transmissiom being removed.

Still, even in contended #spectrum this is manageable, espechally since most #MNOs only maintain vestigal #2G or #3G infrastructure solely for #emergency coverage and reliability, as most phones will call emergency services over 2G and 3G and not via #VoLTE.

  • To add insult to injury, most BSCs will downgrade to 2G-only service by default in case of power loss to maximize UPS range and in the case of #NewZealand even switch off all services but #SMS & #EmergencyServicesCalling to enshure people in need can get their calls out, as the population is instructed to use SMS for person-to-person communication (as SMS is a low-priority, non-realtime service using excess bandwith and thus not compete with calling like #EDGE and #CSD would.
Infosec.SpaceKevin Karhan :verified: (@kkarhan@infosec.space)@stman@mastodon.social well, there were *some commercial services* that used #CellBroadcast but for the most part it's *best feature* is the effective mass alerting of people in an area without needing them to *install yet another app* or *signup to yet another service*... - The [temporary] shutdown of #CellBroadcast caused hundreds of avoidable deaths [in Germany alone.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_European_floods#Germany) @kDelta@mastodon.ie @Sempf@infosec.exchange @LaF0rge@chaos.social @nitrokey@nitrokey.com @signalapp@mastodon.world @GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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@stman well, there were some commercial services that used #CellBroadcast but for the most part it's best feature is the effective mass alerting of people in an area without needing them to install yet another app or signup to yet another service...

@kDelta @Sempf @LaF0rge @nitrokey @signalapp @GrapheneOS

en.wikipedia.org2021 European floods - Wikipedia
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@kDelta @stman @Sempf @LaF0rge @nitrokey @signalapp @GrapheneOS

Given the hamfisted "Australian Approach" I disagree.

  • Noone here claims #2G or #3G are safe but don't you think stuff like "Emergency Coverage" and #CellBroadcast are useful?

Will be interesting to see if Australia can pull that off without having to reenable 2G, cuz I've not heard of a #4G implementation of it...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_Bro

📢 Cellbroadcastd 0.0.1 was released yesterday 📢

#cbd provides the following:
- persistent storage of received #CellBroadcast messages
- notifications for user interfaces/DEs to handle
- set channels to subscribe to (based on country)
- CLI tool for inspection/debugging purposes

gitlab.freedesktop.org/devrtz/

Many thanks to @NGIZero for funding, @agx for involving me and tons of review and @snwh for UI design!

GitLabcellbroadcastd 0.0.1 · Evangelos Ribeiro Tzaras / cellbroadcastd · GitLab First cellbroadcastd release Provide permanent storage for received cell broadcast message Set modem channel's based on country Allow to (optionally) send...
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@devrtz @NGIZero @snwh …and as a service to user interfaces/DEs that don't want to add explicit #CellBroadcast support #cbd can now send notifications. Just enabling the setting is enough.

This is configurable on a severity level so you could use a system modal dialog for high severity events and notifications for low severity ones. This is (likely) how we'll wire it up in #phosh once everything has settled in.

Another #Cellbroadcast bit coming to #phosh / #LinuxMobile. The results of the users choice are set in the modem via a small daemon based on information we're getting from mobile-broadband-provider-info. That way only the tiny UI bit is DE specific, the other bits can be reused on other platforms as is. @devrtz is working on adding persistent storage to keep a message history.

Thanks to @NGIZero for supporting this and @snwh for the UI design.

@holger

Das mag an den verschiedenen Alarmierungen & techn. Einstellungen liegen: Es gibt den Cell Broadcast als (priorisierte) 1:n Verbindung zu allen Mobiltelefonen, die in einen Funkmast eingewählt sind: de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_B

Mir ist nicht klar, ob diverse WarnApps wie NINA, KATWARN und Co eine normale Warnung über das mobile Internet senden oder auch den oben genannten Service nutzen und visualisieren / akustisch ausgeben?

Der in D eingesetzte (leider vom int. Standard abweichende) Cell Broadcast wird daher nicht von allen Smartphones & mobilen Betriebssystemen unterstützt:

Zitat - siehe Quelle oben:
"... Bundesrepublik nicht den ... international bewährten Cell-Broadcast-Standard nutzt, der mit quasi allen Handys und Smartphones kompatibel ist, sondern ein eigenständiges System ... entwickeln ließ, werden viele Nutzer älterer Smartphones sowie alle Nutzer klassischer Handys nicht gewarnt. Es wird ... ein Gerät mit mindestens Android Version 11 bzw. iOS 16 vorausgesetzt."

de.m.wikipedia.orgCell Broadcast – Wikipedia
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@FediNINA_Bielefeld @social.prepedia.org funzt unter Mastodon, ===b :) jedoch bei mir ohne Ton/Viberation :( ----
--- #CellBroadCast auf gut durchgereifte Handys wie das Siemens #S35i, wo man es bereits laut Handbuch 07/ 2000 S. 47 unter Meldungen > CB-Dienste aktivieren kann,
funktioniert der spezielle #DE-Alert leider nicht :(
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Oh, es ist offensichtlich Warntag in NRW.

❌ Cell Broadcast ging nicht.

Aber NINA hat angeschlagen und mir die Warnung dank KDE Connect direkt auf den Desktop geschickt.

Lass ich gelten. Ich wurde gewarnt. Sirenen gab's ja auch.